viper[cww] 14 Posted April 20, 2013 Barely taken alive.... Also, no rounds were spared in the watertown shootout. Twitter account of the suspect: https://twitter.com/J_tsar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRS 10 Posted April 20, 2013 Only reason I'm glad he's alive is so he can be questioned and hopefully executed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
viper[cww] 14 Posted April 20, 2013 Only reason I'm glad he's alive is so he can be questioned and hopefully executed. There is no death penalty in Boston, but I'm positive some sort of presidential decree will over-rule that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRS 10 Posted April 20, 2013 I hope so. To try and lighten things up a little after all this depressing stuff: https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/388140_488733897864795_2052249953_n.jpg Don't forget to give credit where it is due to Spiderman and Batman for helping. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scrim 1 Posted April 20, 2013 Why bother with a death penalty? Aside from being more costly than life in prison, putting the scum to death would lead to him being remembered as a martyr, someone to inspire followers. Rotting away in a jail cell and not dropping your soap in the shower, not so much. If anything, it would be a reminder of what happens to you if you follow his path. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRS 10 Posted April 20, 2013 It doesn't have to be more costly. The only reason it is is because they are stupid. No reason to keep him alive. Let them have their "martyr". Anyone who sees them as an idol already hates us enough anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hillsbills 1 Posted April 20, 2013 The death penalty is costly because of the appeals process. Hopefully with a federal case he can be executed regardless of the state it occurred in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
froggyluv 2130 Posted April 20, 2013 Put him in General Pop and let him learn about new love I say. This case boggles and disgusts me. We let these two guys come to our country for a better future -they join Wrestling teams, Boxing teams -both employ alot of camradarie and yet they then feel they have the right to start blowing up 8 year old boys who never did anything to them.... Feel so strongly for your Chechyn cause? Get the fuck back over there and vent your frustrations on the battle lines. Makes me sick. Hope he gets a 'good man' to take care of him in the pen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jblackrupert 14 Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) The bleeding hearts will be blaming everyone but them for this, you can bet on that. Canada's own Omar Khadr is the posterboy for the far left here http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/judes/2010/07/my-heart-aches-omar-khadar http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/featured/prime-time/867432237001/lsquoroot-causersquo-rhetoric/2313103846001 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Khadr Edited April 20, 2013 by jblackrupert Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hillsbills 1 Posted April 20, 2013 Investigated by the FBI in 2011 and let go, I hope that little fact doesn't get buried in this story. http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/04/official_fbi_interviewed_older_suspect_in_2011 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W0lle 1042 Posted April 20, 2013 Indeed, dead he will be a martyr. Alive he can at least provide answers to the open questions there are. And he's young enough, if he lives long enough (of course behind iron bars for the rest of his sorry life) he can work and pay at least a few percent of the costs he and his <censored> caused. @Hillsbills Yeah so he was interviewed in 2011 and checked by the FBI. Nothing was found and they let him go. What exactly is wrong with that? Not everyone interviewed by them is automatically some possible terrorist, murder or whatever. ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
call_911 10 Posted April 20, 2013 Investigated by the FBI in 2011 and let go, I hope that little fact doesn't get buried in this story.http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/04/official_fbi_interviewed_older_suspect_in_2011 +1 another plot possibly over looked? Glad it's over with even from here in Iowa it's been a very long week for Boston an the country an even the world as a whole. Now let focus on the healing an paying our respects to the fallen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ak1287 1 Posted April 20, 2013 Investigated by the FBI in 2011 and let go, I hope that little fact doesn't get buried in this story.http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/04/official_fbi_interviewed_older_suspect_in_2011 I don't really see the relevance. There's no indication that he was contacted for any sort of illegal action on his part. It's one of those things that you can definitely read into, but you probably shouldn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hillsbills 1 Posted April 20, 2013 It's certainly one of those things Bush would be crucified for, but I understand the double standard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrcash2009 0 Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) Before asking for him to be raped in prison and killed, bear in mind its ongoing and currently in all media outlets you will notice "suspect" - "suspected" IE Suspicion without the proof/probable and so on. Lets get to a point of forensics and interviews and so on, thats why dead is no good. Keywords are important. Still no word yet on security issues, plus the overwhelming details/images ref blackwater/contractors in communication with FBI/Bombsquad teams near the scenes that official outlets will not acknowledge. They were VERY close to the main end point explosion, and questions of this should be: Who hired them? Why did they fail to see something? These questions pertain to failings, not anything else BTW. Hopefully once this current hunt part settles in we can maybe get back to the security of the event. Edited April 20, 2013 by mrcash2009 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purepassion 22 Posted April 20, 2013 Still no word yet on security issues, plus the overwhelming details/images ref blackwater/contractors in communication with FBI/Bombsquad teams near the scenes that official outlets will not acknowledge. They were VERY close to the main end point explosion, and questions of this should be: Who hired them? Why did they fail to see something? Huh? How do you confirm there were private contractors and Blackwater members on the scene? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jblackrupert 14 Posted April 20, 2013 Huh? How do you confirm there were private contractors and Blackwater members on the scene? Just more of Alex Jones bullshit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrcash2009 0 Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) For the sake of the thread its something thats easy to find online with images and so on so have a look around to get them (they were posted before and were deleted before properly checked out with other images that followed), I would post here for valid reasons, but somehow much like mainstream media they are either non existent or at best only conspiracy theory images, however like all images, they are from that day and raise security questions (getting back to lapses and failings again). Just more of Alex Jones bullshit. Images are images, you look at the source and ignore images of the day then thats your choice. Bear in mind you jumped with that and they are just images located in many sources as like all the rest, or are you suggesting he doctored them like one a man bullshit army on photoshop mission? Cant see how they have been online before sourced in other areas. BTW I am no fan of that gobshite either :) Images of operatives talking to FBI post clean-up arent exactly fantasy are they, esp in that precise area? BTW the details are backwater OR private contractors. The conclusions however of such sites who link is to is up to them bullshit or otherwise, the images however are the images of presents in the security element, they shouldnt be intertwined like some filter mask as if they dont exist. If you dont acknowledge them and filter them then your not getting a full picture of the day and event, and how is that a good thing to find out about security issues. Instead of shooting from the hip, maybe its worth aligning such images and details within that day and looking at security issues or lapses. Theres more down to earth direct details of those images than any "muslim with a rucksack" crap that's been the main jamboree of the week thus far. As always chew the meat and spit out the bones, once a few days pass more information comes to light and emotion is a little less raw then all this information and details (not pre conceived conclusions) will paint a better picture of the day. Edited April 20, 2013 by mrcash2009 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
call_911 10 Posted April 20, 2013 Don'y know about any of that..don't care, best part it's over, ppl are safe again, and can return to a normal life. An we can return to playing/testing a game/series we've loved for years! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrcash2009 0 Posted April 20, 2013 Don'y know about any of that..don't care, best part it's over, ppl are safe again, and can return to a normal life. Questionable based on any law changes or security updates in public areas to come out of this. An we can return to playing/testing a game/series we've loved for years! So basicly, your not interested in this thread subject, good for you, enjoy the rest of Arma and the forums :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JdB 151 Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) Huh? How do you confirm there were private contractors and Blackwater members on the scene? Just because there are pictures of Bigfoot that doesn't mean he exists. Funny how a few tan pants and punisher skull caps immediately signal the presence of the Seals seeing as how you can buy them everywhere and other units like Navy EOD and contractors also use them. But well that's the same way of thought not backed up by precise and irrefutable evidence that the same crowd always brings to discussions on the internet and these forums as well. Seeing a few people with the same (or similar) clothes and a few caps all publicly available to buy obviously can't be anything other than the presence of special forces or hired guns. That people as mundaine as mallcops also wear identical clothing and try to look tough through their clothing is of course swept aside in favor of the spectacular "truth" and "revelations". When given the choice between the reasonable and the fantastical they'll always be inclined to go with the most unlikely option because they can. I very much doubt actual Seals would have worn the same clothing or other clothing that makes them stand out from the average spectator, which means these guys were EOD, SRT, Homeland Security, FBI or another government agency. There is no sense in using contractors in the US itself for this kind of event since the FBI and other agencies have more than enough undercover agents that can do this sort of thing and contractors would lack the legal basis for carrying out their job effectively. It does suggest that there was at least some indication that a threat might occur so security was tightened with more specialized personel present, but that would be the reasonable way of thought, saying they are there to carry out a false flag operation or create a precedent to take away civil rights or the right to bear arms is of course much preferrable to the astranged conspiracy theorists. And if all else fails, blame the Jews :rolleyes: Edited April 20, 2013 by JdB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purepassion 22 Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) Those are indeed Private contractors or any other sort of specialised security personel used to support law enforcement at this PME. You can see more of them interacting with the FBI and a communications SUV. That car is also labelled as a "mysterious unmarked SUV" by some people, suggesting Black Ops style coverage but it's actually having a normal license plate in the back... "It should be noted, that with the exception of the contractor-types, all other responders at the scene, including the FBI agent, can be clearly identified, from police to the fire department, to medics and even individuals wearing vests with “B.A.A. Physician†written on them." The guys are also wearing ID cards around their necks... Only judging from the cap, I cannot confidently confirm they are Craft International. However, private contractors supporting law enforcement is nothing unusual. I would actually be very grateful to know that such highly trained professionals provide security for me instead just a collection of street cops and marathon helpers. The main point with these contractors being "evidence for a false-flag operation" are different and I adressed them in a PM from mrcrash. I might post them here later when I come back but anyone can prove these theories are not true and so I'm not sure if it would be a valuable addition to the thread... Edited April 20, 2013 by PurePassion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JdB 151 Posted April 20, 2013 Those are indeed Private contractors used to support law enforcement at this MPE. You can see more of them interacting with the FBI and a communications SUV. That car is also labelled as a "mysterious unmarked SUV" by some people, suggesting Black Ops style coverage but it's actually having a normal license plate in the back...However, private contractors supporting law enforcement is nothing unusual. I would actually be very grateful to know that such highly trained professionals provide security for me instead just a collection of street cops and marathon helpers. Yep, a lot of states only require a license plate on either the front or the back of the vehicle. Saying that it's proof of a black-op shows just how much these people actually know about the matter they are claiming to know the one and only truth on. Oh no a 1994 Ford Fiesta with no license plate on the front just drove by my house with a Delta Force guy dressed up as a granny, the NWO is coming for me! :o Why would they use contractors instead of people from agencies that are already working for them? Never really understood the logic behind that ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ProfTournesol 956 Posted April 20, 2013 Why would they use contractors instead of people from agencies that are already working for them? Never really understood the logic behind that ... Anyway it wasn't really effective this time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
