General Discussion (dev branch)

[Greenfist 1863]

One clearly visible reason for the better fps seems to be the number of objects drawn at a distance.

Here's a GIF alternating between two screenshots with the same settings in 1.60 and 1.61.

Lots of meaningless objects disappear when they're small enough. Good move IMO.

[R3vo 2652]

Yes, that was definitely a clever move. And good find Greenfist.

[nikiforos 450]

I guess most of us are happy over improvement with FPS :)

Good work BIS :)

[ruPal 143]

Looks like they changed settings. They could leave available "LOW" preset only with the same results. That is hardly can be named optimization. Last time checked it was possible to set scene complexity with manual settings in arma3 config file.

[Fushko 60]

I doubled my view distance from 6000 to 12000 and my object distance from 1500 to 2500 and the FPS has stayed pretty much the same if not somewhat better. GG Bohemia.

Only problem still lingering is the small FPS freezes when loading objects. HDD is costantly working when playing this game.

[ineptaphid 6413]

I doubled my view distance from 6000 to 12000 and my object distance from 1500 to 2500 and the FPS has stayed pretty much the same if not somewhat better. GG Bohemia.

Only problem still lingering is the small FPS freezes when loading objects. HDD is costantly working when playing this game.

Regarding the HDD issue-I really can't recommend enough switching to SSD. I saw better performance increases from switching to an SSD than i did after switching from a GTX760 to a GTX980 and from an i54440@3.1 to an i54670k @4.2Ghz

 

@RoadRunner-i am having a similar error pop up, except instead of "gunparticles" mine says "full auto"and sometimes "heavy weapons"

[cervantes 330]

omg whats this ugly graphics update :/?

 

comeback to last graphic update this offering a very better visual effet^^

 

we c'ant now disable this ugly post traitement :/

[R3vo 2652]

@RoadRunner-i am having a similar error pop up, except instead of "gunparticles" mine says "full auto"and sometimes "heavy weapons"

 

Guess we will see some new weapons soon ;)

 

omg whats this ugly graphics update :/?

 

comeback to last graphic update this offering a very better visual effet^^

 

we c'ant now disable this ugly post traitement :/

 

You can tweak the visual appearance in the video settings AA && PP

 

or you can provide proper feedback here:

 

https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/189808-visual-upgrade-%E2%80%93-feedback/?view=getnewpost

[jumpinghubert 48]

One clearly visible reason for the better fps seems to be the number of objects drawn at a distance.

Here's a GIF alternating between two screenshots with the same settings in 1.60 and 1.61.

Lots of meaningless objects disappear when they're small enough. Good move IMO.

What are the object quality settings in the GIF? To reduce object details is a really "good move" to sell it as "optimization".

[cervantes 330]

no you c'ant

 

in last version we can totaly remove this ugly blur

[Greenfist 1863]

What are the object quality settings in the GIF? To reduce object details is a really "good move" to sell it as "optimization".

Objects very high, and the rest here (imgur).

Simply changing the object setting doesn't look the same to me. It also affects objects up close, whereas the dev branch only removes the insignicantly small objects far away.

Although, I can get about the same fps in 1.60 by lowering the setting, but at the expense of image quality.

[cervantes 330]

we c'ant also modifie now a underwater opacity values :/

 

last update totaly affected my custom map params and i c'ant modifie this params.

[fareast 20]

One clearly visible reason for the better fps seems to be the number of objects drawn at a distance.

Here's a GIF alternating between two screenshots with the same settings in 1.60 and 1.61.

Lots of meaningless objects disappear when they're small enough. Good move IMO.

 

eww thats a visual downgrade rather than optimization...

[R3vo 2652]

eww thats a visual downgrade rather than optimization...

 

That's because of that GIF, in a real game play you'll never say, "Hey, over 5000m away, there's a fence missing!"

 

Furthermore, I think we should be happy that we see a performance improvement at all.

[thr0tt 12]

YAAB benchmark I gained 0.1 fps. Not sure 1.61 is going to be the god send folk are looking forward to... plus its not just the gfx that has changed, appears AI path finding or something has been too with impacts pre-set scenes.

[Greenfist 1863]

That's because of that GIF, in a real game play you'll never say, "Hey, over 5000m away, there's a fence missing!"

Yeah, the image was a 1/4 crop of the whole screen, so most missing objects were literally 2-3 pixels wide. I don't think I'd notice when I'm actually playing.

 

YAAB benchmark I gained 0.1 fps. Not sure 1.61 is going to be the god send folk are looking forward to... plus its not just the gfx that has changed, appears AI path finding or something has been too with impacts pre-set scenes.

0.1 is nothing; the margin of error is at least +-0.5 in YAAB. And it's expected the AI acts differently between major game versions, there's lots of changes.

[Guest]

Yeah, the image was a 1/4 crop of the whole screen, so most missing objects were literally 2-3 pixels wide. I don't think I'd notice when I'm actually playing.

*cough* _{at least it's less noticeable than LODs issues} *cough*

[roberthammer 582]

I am getting this new error with the latest dev version when i use attachment pack

 

previously i didn't get this error , so it must be new

[jumpinghubert 48]

Objects very high, and the rest here (imgur).

Simply changing the object setting doesn't look the same to me. It also affects objects up close, whereas the dev branch only removes the insignicantly small objects far away.

Although, I can get about the same fps in 1.60 by lowering the setting, but at the expense of image quality

It would be interesting to add a gif (same scene) with 1.60 stable changing from very high to lower to see the relation of image quality and fps compared to dev-very high.

[ineptaphid 6413]

I am getting this new error with the latest dev version when i use attachment pack

 

previously i didn't get this error , so it must be new

Me too.And one that says "full auto" instead of .scope

[road runner 4344]

things in place for the new weapons perhaps?

[R3vo 2652]

Added: Action Menu Filtering (hiding action parameters for weapon switching)

 

Wasn't that already implemented a while ago?

 

Nevermind, seems I just recieved an e-mail from a few weeks ago.

[da12thMonkey 1943]

• Tweaked: Turrets on airplanes are now more properly supported

Is is possible to explain in what way support for them has been improved?

I remember various issues existing with plane turrets, like AI aiming, certain weapons being a little sketchy etc.

[Alwarren 2765]

Is is possible to explain in what way support for them has been improved?

I remember various issues existing with plane turrets, like AI aiming, certain weapons being a little sketchy etc.

 

Also noted yesterday that apparently they use interior LOD, since in the Ghost Hawk I could see my own butt.

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