CTCCoco 1 Posted March 3, 2012 I finally I'm going to get a i5 2500 3.3ghz (stock speed) with an hd 6850... I think this will be enough for now lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Montanaro 0 Posted March 4, 2012 I've decided to keep my AM3 mobo and get an x4 980 and OC it to 4.2ghz+ plus crossfire VGU and get 16gb of 2133 ddr3 roughly 450 bucks and will at least double my performance All that for less than the price of mobo+i7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
On_Sabbatical 11 Posted March 4, 2012 As far as i'm concerned, if you're building new computer for A3,you can buy the CPU,but you need to wait before you buy the GPU. Personally,i think that ivy bridge cpu will only have some more OC capabilities and a better graphic part that few of us use. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rangerpl 13 Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) I've decided to keep my AM3 mobo and get an x4 980 and OC it to 4.2ghz+plus crossfire VGU and get 16gb of 2133 ddr3 roughly 450 bucks and will at least double my performance All that for less than the price of mobo+i7. Such memory is a complete waste, you'll just be bottlenecked by your AMD CPU. Buy an i5 2500k or wait for the Ivy Bridge i5 2570k to hit the market. It'll have what it takes to run A3.As far as i'm concerned, if you're building new computer for A3,you can buy the CPU,but you need to wait before you buy the GPU.Personally,i think that ivy bridge cpu will only have some more OC capabilities and a better graphic part that few of us use. Due to its 22nm (as opposed to current 32nm Sandy Bridge) architecture, Ivy Bridge will have more transistors per chip, which not only means lower power draw but also better performance (at stock speed).Nobody needs an i7 2600k to play ArmA. Look at the benchmarks. i7 2600k only gives you a few frames above the 2500k, this is because the game does not (and will not) take advantage of the i7's Hyperthreading technology. Also... I'm a big AMD fan as well but there is no question that Phenom II (Deneb and Thuban microarchitectures) gets wrecked by Sandy Bridge in performance-per-core. They're simply not current-generation CPUs and while they may have the legs to run most of today's titles, by 2013 they are going to be obsolete. I have a quad-core Thuban (Zosma technically) and it already has problems with ArmA. Don't expect superb performance when A3 comes out. Edited March 5, 2012 by RangerPL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PuFu 4600 Posted March 5, 2012 Such memory is a complete waste, you'll just be bottlenecked by your AMD CPU. Buy an i5 2500k or wait for the Ivy Bridge i5 2570k to hit the market. It'll have what it takes to run A3. It is a waste only if you are using a PC as a gaming console with email capabilities ;) Nobody needs an i7 2600k to play ArmA. Look at the benchmarks. i7 2600k only gives you a few frames above the 2500k, this is because the game does not (and will not) take advantage of the i7's Hyperthreading technology. hmm, i don't see why RV engine could or won't take advantage of the virtual cores (especially since all curent and future cpus produces by intel (and quite possibly AMD after the FX flop) will focus on the hyperthreading and virtual cores tech... Besides, when you buy a CPU, i never aim for only one software or game or whatever. It should be best bang for the buck but able to cope with a lot more than what it is on the market at the moment of buy...otherwise i would end up changing it far often than a couple of years like i usually do...closer to 6 month or so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haystack15 10 Posted March 5, 2012 Nobody needs an i7 2600k to play ArmA. Look at the benchmarks. i7 2600k only gives you a few frames above the 2500k, this is because the game does not (and will not) take advantage of the i7's Hyperthreading technology. If your a hardcore sim gamer, those few frames is like an extra year of life. I have friends who still play flight simulator, they will kill anyone for just four more fps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
griffz 1 Posted March 5, 2012 i am building a new computer with the goal of playing arma 3 with no problems and i was wondering if an AMD 6 core Processor was necessary? i dont know much about processors but it seems to be a duel between this and an i7. and do u guys think a 550 TI would be a good graphics card? intel sandy bridge and ivy bridge are no match for AMD cpu . arma is heavily CPU dependant, you should choose intel. the last AMD CPU are a joke for those who had hope for better than phenom 2... ---------- Post added at 10:59 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:57 AM ---------- Such memory is a complete waste, you'll just be bottlenecked by your AMD CPU. Buy an i5 2500k or wait for the Ivy Bridge i5 2570k to hit the market. It'll have what it takes to run A3.Due to its 22nm (as opposed to current 32nm Sandy Bridge) architecture, Ivy Bridge will have more transistors per chip, which not only means lower power draw but also better performance (at stock speed). Nobody needs an i7 2600k to play ArmA. Look at the benchmarks. i7 2600k only gives you a few frames above the 2500k, this is because the game does not (and will not) take advantage of the i7's Hyperthreading technology. Also... I'm a big AMD fan as well but there is no question that Phenom II (Deneb and Thuban microarchitectures) gets wrecked by Sandy Bridge in performance-per-core. They're simply not current-generation CPUs and while they may have the legs to run most of today's titles, by 2013 they are going to be obsolete. I have a quad-core Thuban (Zosma technically) and it already has problems with ArmA. Don't expect superb performance when A3 comes out. i agree with force. 4 core is far enough , as long as you don't host dedicated AND client on the same hardware. the "k" is important . it make you able to overclock it very easily . (+ 1ghz for one ...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rangerpl 13 Posted March 5, 2012 It is a waste only if you are using a PC as a gaming console with email capabilities ;) Yes, because if your PC is still running DDR3-1600 it's obviously a facebook machine. hmm, i don't see why RV engine could or won't take advantage of the virtual cores (especially since all curent and future cpus produces by intel (and quite possibly AMD after the FX flop) will focus on the hyperthreading and virtual cores tech...Besides, when you buy a CPU, i never aim for only one software or game or whatever. It should be best bang for the buck but able to cope with a lot more than what it is on the market at the moment of buy...otherwise i would end up changing it far often than a couple of years like i usually do...closer to 6 month or so. Those additional frames that are gained from buying a 2600k come mainly from the higher clock speed and aren't worth the $100 difference. For that, you are better off buying a decent aftermarket cooler and OCing. The 2500k is good enough for any typical ArmA player, 2600k starts being worth it if you do a lot of heavily threaded work. Most people here do not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CTCCoco 1 Posted March 6, 2012 CPU is even more special in ArmA 3 where Physx engine will be handled by the CPU not GPU. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PuFu 4600 Posted March 6, 2012 Yes, because if your PC is still running DDR3-1600 it's obviously a facebook machine. Please list the number of things you use your PC for, besides games. Those additional frames that are gained from buying a 2600k come mainly from the higher clock speed and aren't worth the $100 difference. For that, you are better off buying a decent aftermarket cooler and OCing. The 2500k is good enough for any typical ArmA player, 2600k starts being worth it if you do a lot of heavily threaded work. Most people here do not. But still, a lot do. I'll start: modelling + texturing + vfx (particle based) + lighting + rigging and animating + phisics based simulation (seldomly though) rendering video editing + post production 2d graphic work (both pixel and vector based) + surf +e-mail and playing videos music and the likes. see, for me a PC is a source of making money out of a number of hobbies and professions, and a lot more than the equivalent(but more powerful) console...and my 4000+EUs rigs are, in my book, money well spent. I am pretty sure i am not the only one around here thinking this. sorry if you consider this OT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rangerpl 13 Posted March 6, 2012 But still, a lot do.I'll start: modelling + texturing + vfx (particle based) + lighting + rigging and animating + phisics based simulation (seldomly though) rendering video editing + post production 2d graphic work (both pixel and vector based) + surf +e-mail and playing videos music and the likes. see, for me a PC is a source of making money out of a number of hobbies and professions, and a lot more than the equivalent(but more powerful) console...and my 4000+EUs rigs are, in my book, money well spent. I am pretty sure i am not the only one around here thinking this. sorry if you consider this OT If you do those things, you are wholly justified in buying a PC with such specifications. I was talking about building a PC solely with the purpose of playing ArmA on it. I am aware that people require this sort of power (otherwise Intel wouldn't have a market for its high-end CPUs) but there's no reason to recommend it to people who do not.The way your post was worded made it seem like you were recommending everyone to buy DDR3-2133. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PuFu 4600 Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) The way your post was worded made it seem like you were recommending everyone to buy DDR3-2133. Yeah, my bad then. Not everyone needs a 8/12 threads CPU, guess i have my hopes high about the RV actually using more than 4 cores (virtual or real) Edited March 7, 2012 by PuFu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flash Thunder 10 Posted March 7, 2012 (edited) My PC was a grand when I bought it (pre built HP back in 2008) and over the years have upgraded it to my likings still not complete, no name crap motherboard still and lame RAM ddr2 800mhz But yeah a PC is as important as a car too me in this age we live in. I use it everyday for all uses its a long term investment. 4 cores dedicated to solely AI 2 cores for Physics simulation processes 2 cores for Scripts/event handlers/etc Edited March 7, 2012 by Flash Thunder Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted March 7, 2012 My PC was a grand when I bought it (pre built HP back in 2008) and over the years have upgraded it to my likings still not complete, no name crap motherboard still and lame RAM ddr2 800mhzBut yeah a PC is as important as a car too me in this age we live in. I use it everyday for all uses its a long term investment. 4 cores dedicated to solely AI 2 cores for Physics simulation processes 2 cores for Scripts/event handlers/etc That would be nice but somehow I doubt it. But who knows, maybe BIS surprises us with a game that uses hyperthreading. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites