Degeneration-Redux- Zombie Invasion -

[j rock 10]

bug report 3rd round

missions version 1.4

DGN mod version 1.8

1: people got teleported to north west grid 00,00 for no reason in the middle of the gameplay can't tell when it happen or y it happen

2: some time u start in the middle of the air swimming??? and worst zombie could spawn around u in mid air to kill u.

3: (just a wild guess) major lag when its backing up ur last location,,, any way major lag every once in a while but still bearable for me atleast...

4: those food stash or may be ammo stash or things run on the same system could spawn way off map like skalisty island at grid 13,12 which really not helping...

excellent improvement of 1.4

1: showing damage BH location

[genesis92x 810]

Thanks, the armaholic mirror has been updated.

Thanks Big, didn't expect that to get updated so soon :D

ty genesis92,,, for testing and replying,,, i will sure give it a go again tonight,,,

sorry that we couldn't test different way to make it work, like~~ the way it should be. putting those 5 part close to the chopper (not into its cargo space). Man~~~~ we were under high pressure (we love it), endless wave after wave of zombie keep jumping us from all direction, longer we stay more they come (we freaking love it big time)... and fear of losing those part, like getting kill while carrying those part either on u or in ur vehicle... its pretty much lost forever..

we just didn't hav the time to guess how it work... BIG ty for replying and making such awesome mission we enjoy it alot...

over all it was a excellent, solid awesome mission... however i don't quite see how it is a sandbox mission... casue all we done was look for the chopper and part thats it... what else r there left to do??? (sorry for the harsh comment don't get me wrong, we do love ur mission a friend of mine almost miss work cause how much fun he had with ur mission he had forgotten to sleep)

Thank you for the comments ^_^. And, I know the helicopter part thing can be confusing...not explained yet in the "Notes" section. I really didn't expect anyone to find them all yet! The team and I have been developing Degeneration for a long while and we still have not found over 3 of the helicopter parts...we always die!

Degeneration is called a sandbox mission because the players are free to do what they want. You can sit in a corner of the map and see how long you can last. You can go from town to town killing zombies. Anything you can think of, you can do in Degen. (Within the limits of ArmA of course :P )

The helicopter/parts is just there for players that felt the need for an end goal. You can win by repairing the helicopter or you could just completely ignore it and ride a motor bike in circles all day, doing jumps off of the zombies.

Or if you want a definition:

Sandbox Games

Players are free to go wherever they like within the game environment. These are also referred to as “free roam†games. The character that you play can navigate around the environment, explore, and complete goals and missions at their own pace.

ArmA, in itself, is a sandbox game anyways. So it might be hard to see the difference in Degen :)

bug report 3rd round

missions version 1.4

DGN mod version 1.8

1: people got teleported to north west grid 00,00 for no reason in the middle of the gameplay can't tell when it happen or y it happen

2: some time u start in the middle of the air swimming??? and worst zombie could spawn around u in mid air to kill u.

3: (just a wild guess) major lag when its backing up ur last location,,, any way major lag every once in a while but still bearable for me atleast...

4: those food stash or may be ammo stash or things run on the same system could spawn way off map like skalisty island at grid 13,12 which really not helping...

excellent improvement of 1.4

1: showing damage BH location

1) Hm, I will look into it. Not sure what could be causing it but I might have an idea. In the mean time, try reducing the # of zombies per KM^2 down to 30ish and see if it persists.

2)Haha, that's quite amusing though...I haven't run into that yet. I will look into it.

3)When it saves your location all it's doing is moving a marker to the players location, that shouldn't cause lag. However, the lag spikes might be something else...noted.

4) There is a chance for the food cache to spawn on skalisty island, more like an extra annoying challenge.

All in all, it's hard to debug sometimes, I recieved these issues when the server FPS was extremely low. Is this a dedicated server or a listen server?

Try this and see if it solves any of your problems. If you are on a dedicated use #monitor 3 to be viewing the FPS of the server at all times. If it's a listen server...not sure! We never did any real testing on a listen server.

Edited September 29, 2011 by Genesis92x

[j rock 10]

will test out the latest 1.4b ASAP like now..... will report back later

[][niipaa 11]

Hello J Rock,

The mission is classified as Sandbox due to how there are multiple paths to not only one goal, but in the fact that there is no linear way to do something. The player can choose wether surviving with his friends is just good enough, or they can push their luck to search for helicopter parts, or find a stronger holdout. Sandbox more or less just means that everything is left up to player choice, and the mission has the capability to play out many ways. Or so, that is my understanding of it.

Hope I've helped clear things up a little bit,

~][Niipaa

*Edit* This post now seems irrelevant as IE 8 felt the need to inform me of newer posts after already posting this one. Anywho, grats on the 1.4b Release Dom.

Edited September 29, 2011 by ][Niipaa

[dissaifer 10]

Congrats on the release Gen!

[icebreakr 3157]

Why does the Russian policeman teleport around the map every 30 sec or so?

[genesis92x 810]

Why does the Russian policeman teleport around the map every 30 sec or so?

I looked into the teleporing PoliceMan and it is fixed now...Sorry for another update -_-

I'm going to post the link very soon...

EDIT:

When the upload is complete:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38334795/Degeneration-Redux-V1%252e04b.Chernarus.pbo

Edited September 30, 2011 by Genesis92x
Grammar...!!!

[j rock 10]

XD i think i hav misunderstanding what sandbox means well plz forget that comment then XD

and i just realize a major bug causing factor which could cause all the bug that i hav reported... we didn't play it the way that mission was design to do.... every time after we die we exit the server then return to the same slot or might cause by joining the slot that been play and dead by other player.

it work fine for all version b4 1.4 so we just keep doing it, sorry that i didn't realize it earlier...(thats y we manage to find all five chopper part XD)

here is a new bug

mission version 1.4b

DGN version 1.8

1: it happen only to blu force slot 4 (i think it was the scout slot). some time u would spawn in a falling BH n die..... this problem might exist b4 1.4 i will ask the guy that told me about it again (we start fresh, it was not cause by dying and rejoining the same slot)

Edited September 30, 2011 by j rock

[wiggum2 31]

- Nevermind -

[genesis92x 810]

XD i think i hav misunderstanding what sandbox means well plz forget that comment then XD

and i just realize a major bug causing factor which could cause all the bug that i hav reported... we didn't play it the way that mission was design to do.... every time after we die we exit the server then return to the same slot or might cause by joining the slot that been play and dead by other player.

it work fine for all version b4 1.4 so we just keep doing it, sorry that i didn't realize it earlier...(thats y we manage to find all five chopper part XD)

here is a new bug

mission version 1.4b

DGN version 1.8

1: it happen only to blu force slot 4 (i think it was the scout slot). some time u would spawn in a falling BH n die..... this problem might exist b4 1.4 i will ask the guy that told me about it again (we start fresh, it was not cause by dying and rejoining the same slot)

The guy spawning in the falling BH was actually done upon request. You have to parachute out before you hit the bottom ;) You get like 1500 Meters I believe.

[icebreakr 3157]

Other bugs we noticed:

- two of us spawned in air swimming (after dying), even on JiP (rejoin).

- one of us always started in a chopper crashing down and got killed. Chopper even got stuck to another object and exploded when we tried to repair it with all parts collected

- very few food/drink sources (vehicles and bodysearch didn't find no drinks except grape juice that gives you 5-10min until next "crisis")

- we spent 1 hour just trying to meet with everyone (couple of rookies don't know Chernarus). But when we did we had Bradley and LAV25 with 2 more backup vehicles ;) what else is there to do? Any story present?

[genesis92x 810]

Other bugs we noticed:

- two of us spawned in air swimming (after dying), even on JiP (rejoin).

- one of us always started in a chopper crashing down and got killed. Chopper even got stuck to another object and exploded when we tried to repair it with all parts collected

- very few food/drink sources (vehicles and bodysearch didn't find no drinks except grape juice that gives you 5-10min until next "crisis")

- we spent 1 hour just trying to meet with everyone (couple of rookies don't know Chernarus). But when we did we had Bradley and LAV25 with 2 more backup vehicles ;) what else is there to do? Any story present?

1) Not sure what causes this. If you tried version V1.04B this should be gone now. I have never run into this issue.

2) That was done upon request. You need to "Eject" out before you crash. It will be changed in the future

Chopper even got stuck to another object and exploded when we tried to repair it with all parts collected

For the parts, you just throw them next to the heli. Not into it. Not sure how it go stuck to another object. It has no scripts running on it that allow it to attach to anything...Hm.

3) Food/Water is all random. You probably got the short end of the stick. There is also a food stash that has enough food/water to last you forever and a half

4) A story will come along eventually. Right now it's bug squashing time. You can escape the island and win. You have to come up with your own ideas really. There will be side missions eventually along with other side events.

Also, If you have any ideas for side-missions/extra things please let me know ^_^

Current Plan: Once we get the JIP completely fixed, everything balanced, and etc we will be re-releasing Degeneration again with a whole lot more content added. (Storylines, Side-missions, and etc). We are going to make it that once a player has a radio they can start recieving messages from other AI Survivors.

I just wanted to thank EVERYONE who is taking the time to play and bug test things. You are speeding up the process quite a bit, which is so helpful!

Thank you! Thank you!

Edited September 30, 2011 by Genesis92x

[][niipaa 11]

The DGN Crew will be composing a rather lengthy backstory (Between us we have almost a decade's experience Writing, and years of experience with the Degeneration mission). Once a stable Beta is achieved, you will start seeing more and more lore on the history of not only Chernarus' outbreak, but those of the past (Sahrani, Takistan, and a few others), how it started, notable characters, eyewitness accounts, and other things. All of which will tie directly into the Side Missions and Main Mission of Degeneration, as well as the fate of past survivors and the future of our current ragtag band of undead fights, which you yourself will write as you play so to speak.

[Rexxenexx 0]

bug report 3rd round

3: (just a wild guess) major lag when its backing up ur last location,,, any way major lag every once in a while but still bearable for me atleast...

I get that once in a while. Typically once soon after starting the mission then once in a while randomly. Sometimes it's so heavy is red chains like in this:

cXf_rFID3TM

But it does eventually settle @ 50FPS (Server) when the zombies get cleaned out.

Also still have that paa error at the start. Dgen 1.04b + @DNG 1.8a

[genesis92x 810]

I get that once in a while. Typically once soon after starting the mission then once in a while randomly. Sometimes it's so heavy is red chains like in this:

cXf_rFID3TM

But it does eventually settle @ 50FPS (Server) when the zombies get cleaned out.

Also still have that paa error at the start. Dgen 1.04b + @DNG 1.8a

Thanks Rex, we have looked into and I believe the problem has been squashed.

With all these people testing Degen is developing at an awesome pace :D

Currently, we have made the mission very stable. JIP is almost 100% (Just need to squash 1 bug). And then it's story time/side missions.

I'm going to release a video here shortly about an added feature/fix.

[j rock 10]

excellent to hear that u guys still developing this game... love this game, very very replayable.

here is another bug report

mission version 1.4b2

dgn version 1.8

1: when u mount on to static weapon with the E key u could get into a static cam mode, like spectating mode but looking at ur self and its not a chase cam (dosen't move or follow player)... it might happen only when static weapon is being tow... only soulution i know leave server and rejoin...

2: some time u mount vehicle with E key u could end up seating on top of the vehicle. (this is not a problem since it is only a visual bug, totally no big deal just report it while i m at it)

love the E mounting key its exteremely necessary, very thoughtful, totally sutiable for this mission... scroll menu will get u kill every single time... (some hint about the E key in mission note would be nice for new player)

3: some time people lost all medic kit right when the mission start

last thing plz make the jip thing more chilling player friendly, like deadplayer can rejoin the mission with out restarting the whole mission, well u can do it now but once dead player rejoin the same slot it is buggy as hell (i know u gys already working hard at it ty and very looking forward to that).

to Rexxenexx

ty for helping out testing and hunt down the cause of FPS drop professionally,,, n thats excatlly what happen to me i guess XD. no red chain just fps drop and all the sudden surrounded by zomb. sorry that i m not that skillful i just don't know how to hunt bug like he does, i can only report what i c...

Edited October 5, 2011 by j rock

[genesis92x 810]

excellent to hear that u guys still developing this game... love this game, very very replayable.

here is another bug report

mission version 1.4b2

dgn version 1.8

1: when u mount on to static weapon with the E key u could get into a static cam mode, like spectating mode but looking at ur self and its not a chase cam (dosen't move or follow player)... it might happen only when static weapon is being tow... only soulution i know leave server and rejoin...

2: some time u mount vehicle with E key u could end up seating on top of the vehicle. (this is not a problem since it is only a visual bug, totally no big deal just report it while i m at it)

love the E mounting key its exteremely necessary, very thoughtful, totally sutiable for this mission... scroll menu will get u kill every single time... (some hint about the E key in mission note would be nice for new player)

3: some time people lost all medic kit right when the mission start

last thing plz make the jip thing more chilling player friendly, like deadplayer can rejoin the mission with out restarting the whole mission, well u can do it now but once dead player rejoin the same slot it is buggy as hell (i know u gys already working hard at it ty and very looking forward to that).

to Rexxenexx

ty for helping out testing and hunt down the cause of FPS drop professionally,,, n thats excatlly what happen to me i guess XD. no red chain just fps drop and all the sudden surrounded by zomb. sorry that i m not that skillful i just don't know how to hunt bug like he does, i can only report what i c...

Thanks J rock.

I encountered problem 1 last night actually! I had to get one of my friends to bring over a vehicle so that I could hop in. That fixed it. Will look into it.

Problem 2, Some of my friends have encountered this as well, but I believe it has been fixed now.

Problem 3, That should be fixed now as well ^_^

As for the FPS drop, I played a couple of hours last night, and with the new horde system I did not encounter it.

In the mean time...enjoy this bad quality video I created in like 15 minutes :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNjkgFUCBF0

Again, thanks for all the help. It really is speeding up the time :D Especially when I only get 1-2 hours to work on it every so often...WHY COLLEGE?! WHY!?

Edited October 5, 2011 by Genesis92x

[][niipaa 11]

Dom, if you're still using Adobo Premiere Pro CS4, try these settings.

When setting up a new project, when you get to the "New Sequence" window, check the "Sequence Presets" tab, and you should see AVCHD and if you drop that down, you should see 1080p. Under that try AVCHD 1080p30. Unless that's what you've been using. Honestly I haven't been able to get the same crispness my earlier DiRT videos have from WMM, but I've been trying. Leisure Drive was my only Premiere Pro release, and it is in that AVC Format if you were curious.

Anyways grats on the release/fans as always. See you 'round.

[Z.agge 10]

I downloaded your mission and tried it because I like the concept and how you've managed to make this mission without zombie addons. I tried the former Degeneration, but it was too heavy for my computer. Now I've got a new rig and got this REDUX working quite well. I had some fps drop after a while, but it was nothing I couldn't handle. The problem is that this mission seems to be quite impossible. It starts, then I have less than a minute time to find a weapon and then the zombies come and kill me :D I usually end up running from them, but eventually they catch me or I try to shoot them. The point is that I get too easily outnumbered. I tried escaping with a car, but cars have usually very little fuel so it doesn't very good either. Could anyone give me some good tips how to survive a little longer? I would like to play this mission, but at the moment killing and running from endless zombies with or without a weapon seems to be too hard for my taste :D

[genesis92x 810]

I downloaded your mission and tried it because I like the concept and how you've managed to make this mission without zombie addons. I tried the former Degeneration, but it was too heavy for my computer. Now I've got a new rig and got this REDUX working quite well. I had some fps drop after a while, but it was nothing I couldn't handle. The problem is that this mission seems to be quite impossible. It starts, then I have less than a minute time to find a weapon and then the zombies come and kill me :D I usually end up running from them, but eventually they catch me or I try to shoot them. The point is that I get too easily outnumbered. I tried escaping with a car, but cars have usually very little fuel so it doesn't very good either. Could anyone give me some good tips how to survive a little longer? I would like to play this mission, but at the moment killing and running from endless zombies with or without a weapon seems to be too hard for my taste :D

Degen was made to be difficult ;) You can try lowering the # of zombies per KM^2. But other than that, you are SOL.

Truthfully, the hardest part is the first 10 minutes. After that, it gets easier.

However, there will be a change in the upcoming Degeneration that will change how the horde works...its in the video I posted above. It makes it easier to begin, but still has difficulty. (You can see me running around in a town looking for weapons before any zombies attack)

[j rock 10]

I downloaded your mission and tried it because I like the concept and how you've managed to make this mission without zombie addons. I tried the former Degeneration, but it was too heavy for my computer. Now I've got a new rig and got this REDUX working quite well. I had some fps drop after a while, but it was nothing I couldn't handle. The problem is that this mission seems to be quite impossible. It starts, then I have less than a minute time to find a weapon and then the zombies come and kill me :D I usually end up running from them, but eventually they catch me or I try to shoot them. The point is that I get too easily outnumbered. I tried escaping with a car, but cars have usually very little fuel so it doesn't very good either. Could anyone give me some good tips how to survive a little longer? I would like to play this mission, but at the moment killing and running from endless zombies with or without a weapon seems to be too hard for my taste :D

HERE R SOME TIPS OF HOW TO SERVIVE AND THINGS TO DO

1: find a SUV or US military vehicle casue if u get in as driver u will be able to use map but not keep them

2: get a car and get the hell out when hored, as u already know the spawn never end they will just keep coming at u from all direction

3: use dock block when u run out of bandage, what is dock block check out their video

4: there is a way to end the mission, find all five chopper part to fix the damamge BH and fly east NOTE!!!! put the 5 part right next to the BH NOT in its cargo space AND it would only show the repairable BH location if u get a map or gps that u can carry with u at gear point or if u lucky u can find them in vehicle cargo space

[-KH-AlphaGuerilla 10]

Is it possible to add amount of zombie hordes being spawned?

[genesis92x 810]

AlphaGuerilla;2035316']Is it possible to add amount of zombie hordes being spawned?

If you mean having the amount of zombies being controllable, the upcoming version will have a better system which gives the player more control.

Edited October 10, 2011 by Genesis92x

[-KH-AlphaGuerilla 10]

If you mean having the amount of zombies being controllable, the upcoming version will have a better system which gives the player more control.

Ok thx for the quick reply looking forward to new version :D

[][niipaa 11]

DGN Core 1.9a Released: Download

Changelog from the Readme:

Version 1.9a

Readme Updated.

Knowledge Base Created to keep additional information separate and organized.

Installation Section Enhanced

1.9a Now Supports both Version 1 & Version 2 Signatures in the same Archive. (Check Installation For Details)

Full Classlist Completed. (Check DGN Core Knowledge Base.rtf)

Civilian Urals (DGN_UralCivil, DGN_Ural_TK_CIV_EP1, DGN_UralCivil2) now have empty Magazine and Weapon Cargo.***** Military Ural's still have the A2/OA default loadout.

*****All this means is that "Farmer's" Urals will no longer have a ludicrous amount of ammunition in the back by default.

*****Even in the most war-torn countries, civilians rarely have access to that much ordnance.

Source Work Scheduled For Release: Version 2.0b

Roadmap Released.

Enjoy

~][Niipaa