azz_er 10 Posted August 21, 2011 (edited) Hey guys, Recently every single time I play ARMA, after a while my game stops rendering properly and I drop down to around 6fps which just makes it completely unplayable. Flushing usually fixes the problem for around 5-10mins, then it happens again and after that flushing does nothing. I've checked my CPU and GPU temps whilst playing and they are all normal and my RAM usage is around 70%. I havent changed anything since it started happening and it happens with my graphics settings both high and low. I've uploaded a few screenshots so you know what I mean: PC Specs: i5 760 2.8Ghz @ 3.6ghz 4GB Corsair DDR3 RAM EVGA nVidia 450GTS Windows 7 32bit Any ideas guys? Apart from buying new hardware? :( Edited August 21, 2011 by azz_er Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PuFu 4599 Posted August 21, 2011 until you post your ingame settings and your hardware specs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azz_er 10 Posted August 21, 2011 (edited) whoops! sorry, forgot about those! I havent added my in-game settings as I've tried everything and nothing fixes it. Edited August 21, 2011 by azz_er Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PuFu 4599 Posted August 21, 2011 what game version (a2/OA and its version). Any addons? etc... I would backup my arma2.cfg and delete it, allowing the game to make a new one. The video memory should be better detected this days (and should stay on default btw).\ I haven't encounter such problems myself, so it is really hard to find your culprit (especially since you are saying this is out of the blue behaviour your having). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azz_er 10 Posted August 22, 2011 Latest version of ArmA (no BETA patches etc.) and Im running ACE, RWS Soundmods, and TF86 private addons but I get the problem with and without mods so :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liquidpinky 11 Posted August 22, 2011 What is your GFX memory set at in the graphics options, if at default set it to high or at a lower setting and give that a shot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azz_er 10 Posted August 22, 2011 I've tried both default and very high (I have a 1GB gfx card) and the problem still persists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WaffelO 10 Posted August 26, 2011 I asked for help in another forum, no solution. I´ve the same problem like you and dont know how to fix it. Since Arrowhead (maybe 1.59) the texture and lod is completly miserable and bugged as hell. Video - This is really really extrem and unplayable :/. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dukenukem. 10 Posted August 26, 2011 Try updating graphics card drivers. Also try the beta patches. http://www.arma2.com/beta-patch.php Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WaffelO 10 Posted August 26, 2011 I´ve tried a handfull of new drivers.. is it possible to play with Mods with a beta patch applied? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dukenukem. 10 Posted August 26, 2011 Yes, possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kklownboy 43 Posted August 26, 2011 I've tried both default and very high (I have a 1GB gfx card) and the problem still persists.you have a 1GB card with 128bit bus... Lower your REZ and settings, or buy new HW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WaffelO 10 Posted August 28, 2011 Yes, possible. And how? If I start the beta exe there are no mods listed unter expansion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dukenukem. 10 Posted August 29, 2011 Because u need to load the mods using a launcher or the modline as usual! Just that beta uses the arma2oa.exe inside /expansion/beta. How are u loading the mods w/o the beta now? Use this http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=81060 or http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=89731 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azz_er 10 Posted August 29, 2011 It appears my problems were being caused by ACRE + JayArmA2Lib. More info here if anyone has the same issue :) http://dev-heaven.net/issues/23833 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WaffelO 10 Posted September 2, 2011 I tested it with 5(!) Beta Patches from new to old. The problem still exist! The textures and Lod ist terrible like shown in the video. Man this sucks so hard, Vanilla Arma 2 run perfectly... @azz I don´t have ACRE installed and never heard of JayArma2Lib. But I´ve the problem without Mods too :(. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WaffelO 10 Posted September 6, 2011 http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?p=2013422&posted=1#post2013422 #89 I´ve 6gb of Ram, maybe this causes the problem? With 8gb the Game crashed like in post 89 with the "out of memory" bug. So I´ve to try it with 4gb ram? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WaffelO 10 Posted September 10, 2011 It´s really nice to play Arma 2 with Ultra low textures..not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[frl]myke 14 Posted September 11, 2011 It´s really nice to play Arma 2 with Ultra low textures..not. It's really fun to try to help without even knowing what hardware you use, which driver versions and so on.....not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WaffelO 10 Posted September 11, 2011 (edited) E8400@3.55Ghz 6GB DDR2 800mhz 4870@512Vram Newest ATI Driver (But I tried so many older ones). But come on, it doesnt really matter which Hardware I use...there a plenty of other people with the same bug. Maybe you´ve a clue to fix this? As I said: I tried EVERYTHING from reinstalling W7,Drivers,Arma, patches, Configs, startparameter etc etc. The last thing I don´t tested is to take one Ram slot out and try it with 4 GB. Edited September 11, 2011 by WaffelO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[frl]myke 14 Posted September 11, 2011 Texture Detail = very high Video memory = very high Anisotropic filter = very high Mate, you're overloading your 4870/512 by far. Put these settings back to Normal. Also check temps of the GPU while playing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WaffelO 10 Posted September 11, 2011 I´m not that stupid. :D I changed the graphic options hundred of times and tried every possible combination. This is why I´m so helpless..As said, I recognized the bug since Arrowhead (1.59?) Before this, Arma run without this bug. The hardware never reach high temps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[frl]myke 14 Posted September 11, 2011 I've never said you're stupid, if it sounded like this i'm sorry. I can only judge by what i know and see and in the vid you linked those settings where on very high, so that's where i based my advice upon. This shows why it is important to give as much info as possible. A very good source would be a dxdiag.txt file to look at aswell the rpt files, although the latter in this case is of low importance i think. Besides that, i know that CO actually can run without these bugs as i play regulary and i never saw this bug on my side. Not helpful i know but it shows that there must be a solution we just have to find. Sadly the only thing that comes to mind is, did you already tried to delete arma2.cfg and arma2oa.cfg and let the game create them new? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WaffelO 10 Posted September 14, 2011 Yup arma2.cfg/arma2oa.cfg deleted etc. dxdiag.txt ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 9/14/2011, 19:09:52 Machine name: no game Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506) Language: German (Regional Setting: German) System Manufacturer: System manufacturer System Model: System Product Name BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG Processor: Intel® Core2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.5GHz Memory: 6144MB RAM Available OS Memory: 6142MB RAM Page File: 4887MB used, 7395MB available Windows Dir: C:\Windows DirectX Version: DirectX 11 DX Setup Parameters: Not found User DPI Setting: Using System DPI System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent) DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 64bit Unicode ------------ DxDiag Notes ------------ Display Tab 1: No problems found. Sound Tab 1: No problems found. Sound Tab 2: No problems found. Sound Tab 3: No problems found. Input Tab: No problems found. -------------------- DirectX Debug Levels -------------------- Direct3D: 0/4 (retail) DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail) DirectInput: 0/5 (retail) DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail) DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail) DirectSound: 0/5 (retail) DirectShow: 0/6 (retail) --------------- Display Devices --------------- Card name: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc. Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x9440) DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz) Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9440&SUBSYS_05021002&REV_00 Display Memory: 3318 MB Dedicated Memory: 502 MB Shared Memory: 2815 MB Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (59Hz) Monitor Name: SyncMaster 2494HM/2494HS/2494HSI(Digital) Monitor Model: SyncMaster Monitor Id: SAM04D4 Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (59.934Hz) Output Type: DVI Driver Name: aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx32,aticfx32,aticfx32,atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atidxx32,atiumdva,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll Driver File Version: 8.17.0010.1086 (English) Driver Version: 8.872.0.0 DDI Version: 10.1 Driver Model: WDDM 1.1 Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 7/8/2011 05:28:26, 814592 bytes WHQL Logo'd: Yes ........................ The last thing I can do is to put out 2 GB of Ram and test it with just 4GB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[frl]myke 14 Posted September 14, 2011 Two things i see there (altough i don't know if it is related, just pointing to take everything into account): Your DXDiag: DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 64bit Unicode Mine: DxDiag Version: 7.00.6002.18107 64bit Unicode Looks odd since i have a older Windows version than you (i have Vista x64) so theoretically if there would be a difference, IMHO your version number should be higher than mine. And the second thing: Driver File Version: 8.17.0010.1086 (English) Driver Date/Size: 7/8/2011 05:28:26, 814592 bytes Driver Version: 8.17.0010.1091 (English) Driver Date/Size: 7/28/2011 23:39:14, 852992 bytes here i'm almost sure that it is unrelated. One thing that comes to mind: ArmA 2 is a DX9 game, did you ever installed the latest version of DX9? I know you have DX11 but this has nothing to do as DX11 doesn't include DX9 files. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites