vinc3nt 10 Posted August 15, 2011 (edited) Just out of curiosity can anyone confirm or deny any of these features: - Changing/different in visibility underwater - Currents underwater - Bullets from out of water dissipating or even being destroyed when fired into the water - Depth, compass and air indicators when underwater - Faults in scuba gear (either random or if you have been shot in the tank ect.) - Climbing from the water up a net on the side of a ship - Ships available to raid from water - Picking up objects from the seabed - Lights underwater (for night-time or large depths) - Use of tools or weapons (spear-gun, placing explosives ect.) underwater - Diffraction effect of people underwater from a view outside the water - Correct shock wave underwater if explosive is triggered underwater - Some kind of wounded system underwater - Decompression times needed if underwater for a while I'm not recommending these, in fact I wouldn’t like to see some of them; I just would like to know if some will be implemented or are being discussed at the moment. Edited August 15, 2011 by vinc3nt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JdB 151 Posted August 15, 2011 Just out of curiosity can anyone confirm or deny any of these features:- Currents underwater - Faults in scuba gear (either random or if you have been shot in the tank ect.) - Use of tools or weapons (spear-gun, placing explosives ect.) underwater - Decompression times needed if underwater for a while I believe underwater currents are not going to be in because they would affect (hinder) the Ai too much. As for the other two points I quoted, if they were to be implemented, I think we would have seen other similar features implemented before these, like vehicles breaking down from usage and weapons jamming and/or deteriorating over time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theblessedpig 10 Posted August 15, 2011 Features I'd like besides the above mentioned: - ability to buddy breath - decompression sickness from surfacing too fast - ability to put on/fix/put down SCUBA gear (if you jump from a plane into water, you put on your gear, etc.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metalcraze 290 Posted August 15, 2011 Water will just be a medium where you can move in 3 dimensions and that's it. It won't be simulated in any realistic way so you can relax now. And wait for ACE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PuFu 4591 Posted August 15, 2011 It won't be simulated in any realistic way so you can relax now. And wait for ACE. Why do i have the feeling that this purely based on your awesome opinion without any info to back it up... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MissionCreep 12 Posted August 15, 2011 (edited) Just out of curiosity can anyone confirm or deny any of these features:- Bullets from out of water dissipating or even being destroyed when fired into the water Recently saw a "Myhbusters" re-run on TV that addressed this. When fired vertically down, bullet penetration from a 9 mm handgun was only about 3-4 m. When fired obliquely at a 20-30 degree angle the effects on the bullet were catastrophic, causing it to shatter after 1 or 2 feet (30-60 cm). They fired a range of guns, 9 mm pistol, shotgun slug, M1 and a 50 cal M107. Even the M107 50 calibre slug (full metal jacket) disintegrated upon entering the water. The most effective weapon fired from the shore at someone offshore under water (30 degree angle) was a 9 mm pistol (low velocity), which had a penetration depth of around 3 feet (1 meter) depth. http://www.buzzhumor.com/videos/11603/Mythbusters_Bullet_Proof_Water_Test Edited August 15, 2011 by MissionCreep Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vinc3nt 10 Posted August 15, 2011 Features I'd like besides the above mentioned:- ability to put on/fix/put down SCUBA gear (if you jump from a plane into water, you put on your gear, etc.) I heard or read an interview where a BI employee said you will be able to take your scuba gear on/off in exchange of your normal gear by using the menu options (the ones that appear when you use scroll) But I don’t know whether it would be possible to do it in a vehicle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arigram 0 Posted August 15, 2011 All we know about diving is that 1) You can sabotage vessels 2) You will have infinite amount of oxygen 3) You can scavenge submerged items 4) There will be diver assist vehicles 5) Diving will be used for short, stealthy operations I also believe that it will be very simplified as it doesn't appear to be a big part of gameplay. It could well be expanded via a DLC, but considering how limited the environment is in terms of mission potential, the developers wouldn't waste much resources on it. I am sure everyone wants to see everything simulated to its fullest, but whatever is not "economically viable" (from a developing perspective) and doesn't offer much to the gameplay, will be at the bottom of the priorities list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cia_kid 10 Posted August 15, 2011 - Depth, compass and air indicators when underwater Standard - Climbing from the water up a net on the side of a ship Or a ladder, low deck, etc - Ships available to raid from water I hope so! Imagine assaulting a yacht and taking out some "bad guy". - Picking up objects from the seabed Asset recovery, that would be interesting. - Lights underwater (for night-time or large depths) Interesting concept, like an flare or just a waterproof flashlight? - Use of tools or weapons (spear-gun, placing explosives ect.) underwater An essential feature! - Diffraction effect of people underwater from a view outside the water Doubt it, really depends on the view distance. - Correct shock wave underwater if explosive is triggered underwater I'd be surprised if there wasn't. - Some kind of wounded system underwater Shark attack? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killercam 10 Posted August 16, 2011 Just out of curiosity can anyone confirm or deny any of these features:- Changing/different in visibility underwater - Currents underwater - Bullets from out of water dissipating or even being destroyed when fired into the water - Depth, compass and air indicators when underwater - Faults in scuba gear (either random or if you have been shot in the tank ect.) - Climbing from the water up a net on the side of a ship - Ships available to raid from water - Picking up objects from the seabed - Lights underwater (for night-time or large depths) - Use of tools or weapons (spear-gun, placing explosives ect.) underwater - Diffraction effect of people underwater from a view outside the water - Correct shock wave underwater if explosive is triggered underwater - Some kind of wounded system underwater - Decompression times needed if underwater for a while I'm not recommending these, in fact I wouldn’t like to see some of them; I just would like to know if some will be implemented or are being discussed at the moment. i like the ideas exept for decomp ---------- Post added at 08:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:06 PM ---------- Features I'd like besides the above mentioned:- ability to buddy breath - decompression sickness from surfacing too fast - ability to put on/fix/put down SCUBA gear (if you jump from a plane into water, you put on your gear, etc.) like blurryness from decom sick and i liek teh ideas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarlGustaffa 4 Posted August 16, 2011 2) You will have infinite amount of oxygen Ouch. I'd expect that from CM, but not BIS. :p Not sure scuba will be my favorite thing, but where used, oxygen levels, and refilling the flask, could be an added challenge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rye1 21 Posted August 16, 2011 Hmm wonder if you can take some of the kit off underwater, e.g. flippers before coming out the water? Love the ideas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[evo] dan 79 Posted August 16, 2011 If the add decompression, the big question is whose tables do they go by? US navy, BSAC, PADI, or try and use a dive computer like setup for the tables? might be best if they leave it out unless they provide us with a way to tell the times (and yes I am an experienced diver) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theblessedpig 10 Posted August 17, 2011 Also one water feature that would be nice is earth curvature (already present in VBS2). Earth curvature would make amphibious operations more awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neokika 62 Posted August 17, 2011 Also one water feature that would be nice is earth curvature (already present in VBS2). Earth curvature would make amphibious operations more awesome. Like in this shot? :D _neo_ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PuFu 4591 Posted August 17, 2011 that is the viewdeistance, which is a sphere around the POV Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neokika 62 Posted August 17, 2011 that is the viewdeistance, which is a sphere around the POV Ok, I believe you, although that screen actually made me thought we would have real planet curvature. _neo_ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
