beerz 10 Posted March 31, 2011 Hi there Last time i played Arma 2 or Arma 2 OA (with ace mod and without) the AI shot through High grass if i activated "Full Gras" in the show status option! Or they shoot through the wood or through trees! Or through some sandbags... Are you fix this bug in the near future or is this a known problem or is this no problem? Love to play ARMA 2 + OA and buying the reinforcements pack when its available on DVD but only if this get fixed ;) With best regards your beerz :) (Sorry, for my broken english and greets from germany ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beagle 684 Posted March 31, 2011 There is nothing to fix, it's a feature. A.I. is capable to do supressive fire. If you don't move out of it you will get caught sooner or later. Fire and movement is the key...never fire twice from the same location when you're outnumbered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beerz 10 Posted March 31, 2011 yeah thats right! but im not stupid buddy ;) but its a known problem and im not the only one who says that! a short example of a tactical game of the community i play with its night we get slowly crouched to near a village were we have to destroy a mi 24 hind we stopped near a farm in high grass between a few trees we stayed there for a few minutes that our squadleader can check the map and we checked the area! bam we got seen it was a troop with nightvision yeah but high grass and more damn thats not good i dont want to sound like a whining baby but like i said im not the only one who think it sucks :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beagle 684 Posted March 31, 2011 Why don't you simply lower A.I. skill and accuracy values? The game allows for al kinds of custom settings down to a point where A.I. is deaf and blind and hit nothing smaller than a barndoor. Problem solved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beerz 10 Posted March 31, 2011 Write siruos answers (-.-) i Play ARMA since a Long Time so dont think im a Little baby and give siriuos answers please! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeMeSiS 11 Posted March 31, 2011 Or they shoot through the wood or through trees!Or through some sandbags... No they dont. The bullets from the AI are handled exactly the same as yours, they cannot go through things you cannot shoot through. Furthermore objects have been concealment since and grass can be somewhat . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beagle 684 Posted March 31, 2011 This is a serious answer and it solves the "problem" of overaccurate and oversensitive A.I. Just configure the A.I. to your needs. open user.cfg and change the values: skillFriendly=1.000000; skillEnemy=0.750000; precisionFriendly=0.330000; precisionEnemy=0.250000; Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beerz 10 Posted March 31, 2011 Thanks for posting but only a half thanks to Beagle Cause stupid ai sucks more then Genius! yeah thats a Problem with the Grass if you lay down As a sniper and get a kill when you are in the Woods and over 1000 meters Away and then Move to another Position Cause like Beagle Said don't shoot twice from the Same Position! you get Killed anyways :/ Best regards written from my iphone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeMeSiS 11 Posted March 31, 2011 Thanks for posting!yeah thats a Problem with the Grass if you lay down As a sniper and get a kill when you are in the Woods and over 1000 meters Away and then Move to another Position Cause like Beagle Said don't shoot twice from the Same Position! you get Killed anyways :/ Best regards written from my iphone It still works fine when you hide behind objects though. And the thing is, even if they fixed this bug the AI would still just see you walk to another location in the grass so in the end it doesnt matter that much. Just use objects. ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beerz 10 Posted March 31, 2011 ok thanks for this fast Answering Nemesis :) yeah You're right! nice now i can Tell em how they get Not Killed near a village or in the Woods :D a "Fire and forget" System would Be nice if they located you and you stop shooting and moving Away they should forget you but they should Not stop being alarmed so it would Be more realistic ( i Hope you understand my broken english) Best regards and good Night beerz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeMeSiS 11 Posted March 31, 2011 ok thanks for this fast Answering Nemesis :)yeah You're right! nice now i can Tell em how they get Not Killed near a village or in the Woods :D a "Fire and forget" System would Be nice if they located you and you stop shooting and moving Away they should forget you but they should Not stop being alarmed so it would Be more realistic ( i Hope you understand my broken english) Best regards and good Night beerz That is already in. If they dont see you anymore they will estimate your location on your last known position, direction and speed, just like real people (except somewhat worse). They never known magically where you are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metalcraze 290 Posted April 1, 2011 (edited) it was a troop with nightvision yeah So what's the problem then? but high grass and more So what? Why do people think that grass makes them 100% invisible, especially considering that they move in there or push some grass to the ground while crawling (which AI is also able to notice) damn thats not good That's exactly how it should be. Everything is fair. If you can see AI during the night with NVGs, he can see you too. That is already in. If they dont see you anymore they will estimate your location on your last known position, direction and speed, just like real people (except somewhat worse). They never known magically where you are. In fact this is there since OFP. What's with this constant storm of silly threads anyway? I killed AI too easily - AI is stupid, make it cheat! I get killed by AI because I wasn't careful enough - AI is cheating! Make it stupid! Why do people think that if they don't see an enemy the enemy doesn't see them? Edited April 1, 2011 by metalcraze Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScareCroweb 10 Posted April 3, 2011 So what's the problem then?So what? Why do people think that grass makes them 100% invisible, especially considering that they move in there or push some grass to the ground while crawling (which AI is also able to notice) That's exactly how it should be. Everything is fair. If you can see AI during the night with NVGs, he can see you too. In fact this is there since OFP. What's with this constant storm of silly threads anyway? I killed AI too easily - AI is stupid, make it cheat! I get killed by AI because I wasn't careful enough - AI is cheating! Make it stupid! Why do people think that if they don't see an enemy the enemy doesn't see them? Since OFP? OFP did not have grass and btw I agree with this german guy, the grass sucks bigtime, against AI and against People "pvp" you can end up being spotted in the grass even when you are totally covered in grass yourself, lol this is super unrealistic, so dont come here and state things like lower your settings or your not good enough or bull like that. the grass is a seriuos issue and its more eyecandy than actually realistic so I turn the grass off period. to play a fair fight the grass must be off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeMeSiS 11 Posted April 3, 2011 Since OFP? OFP did not have grass Have you even read the whole topic? He was talking about when you hide behind objects/terrain, i already posted a video about what happens when you hide in grass when you are already known to the AI. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwarden 1125 Posted April 3, 2011 AI don't see thru vegetation or objects (unless there is bug) yet contrary to humans they may see You thru holes or over ege way better than human of AI keeps firing on your locationar after they spotted You or heard You or You opened fire well they either trying supress You or just firing at Your last location for some time AI takes in mind stance and distance (sort of hiddin in grass) but it's limited on long distance i agree that there should be better camouflage/grass-stance difference on closer range which i mentioned already in CIT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
