V22 osprey not a good add on

[Rain of bullets 0]

looks like their starting to have doubts about the V22 osprey, so let's NOT have it as an add-on

http://www.military.com/Content....DSTORY1

[Paratrooper 0]

It's an expensive failure as an aircraft, and would make a poor addon. Not to mention the fact that it isn't in service.

[advocatexxx 0]

Yeah but they won't cancel the F-22 though. They will scale back the number Air Force wants to order, but they won't halt the project. USAF needs to replace their F-15Es, and billions have already been spent on the Raptor research and development.

[Darkhawk 0]

WOW but I dont blame them for getting rid of the V22 they did not test it well enought to go into service I think.

[Paratrooper 0]

It's one thing to die in combat, but another to be killed be shoddy equipment.

[kegetys 2]

Maybe we could make a "test that osprey" mission during which it crashes and you have to try to survive

[Paratrooper 0]

lol, or where you have to take down the planners and DoD officials!

[superfly_bonzai 0]

even if the thing gets scrapped for real, u gotta admit that the osprey would add a great game play aspect to game (vtol troop transport), as well as that it really does look cool , only prob the whole mechanics of the tilt rotar thing may be hard to integrate into the game.

[Delenda 0]

I say it is not so much the osprey but the pilots. the osprey has a very good purpose peole just can't fly it right or build it right.

[Paratrooper 0]

If it can't be built or flown right is has been poorly designed.

[KingBeast 0]

Im not defending the soprey or anything, but the Harrier had an absolutely terrible safety record in its early days. And I mean diabolical. Most of the time it was pilot error that ended up getting them killed, so maybe its the same for that thing.

[Benze 0]

NONE OF THE OSPREY CRASHES WERE CAUSED BY MECHANICAL FAILURE OR DESIGN. THEY WERE ALL RESULT OF PILOT ERROR.

Just think of all the crashes ALL aircraft go through in the testing phase!

The osprey is coming to you in a matter of years. When the USMC wants something, they get it. The osprey just needs more testing, all aircraft need testing before they can be flown without crashing. This fuss over the osprey is rediculous. The osprey is making it.

Once you see the amazing advantages of the osprey, you will understand why it is kept, dispight pilot errors which result in crash.

[Ex-RoNiN 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Benze @ May 03 2002,22:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">NONE OF THE OSPREY CRASHES WERE CAUSED BY MECHANICAL FAILURE OR DESIGN. THEY WERE ALL RESULT OF PILOT ERROR.

Just think of all the crashes ALL aircraft go through in the testing phase!

The osprey is coming to you in a matter of years. When the USMC wants something, they get it. The osprey just needs more testing, all aircraft need testing before they can be flown without crashing. This fuss over the osprey is rediculous. The osprey is making it.

Once you see the amazing advantages of the osprey, you will understand why it is kept, dispight pilot errors which result in crash.<span id='postcolor'>

Why doesn't the USMC just use Blackhawk's, like everyone else, and let the USAF have their F-22's? After all, this is the baddest and meanest ************ of a plane to ever have seen the face of the earth!

[Paratrooper 0]

Erm, no it isn't. It's slow.

[Delenda 0]

u all see the cargo plane on the forums by evis. if he took two engines off and point the other two up we would probaly come out with something like an osprey "HINT" "HINT".

[ralphwiggum 6]

problem is that officers lied about records or maintenance.

[Airdude2 0]

the only reason the f-16 didn't kill as many poeple as the ophsprey is because u can't fit as many inside.

remeber also that the huey had a bad starting phase aswell.

hell i even saw a jag episode that gave a convincing arguement for the ophsprey.

hahaha they should just scale up the harrier by 300%

[Benze 0]

Apparently none of you have in mind the tactical advantage of the osprey. The range of a prop plane and the abilities of a helicopter! None of you seem to be appreciating how huge this. And most of you seem to have your mind set against it. Well, we'll see in 2010.

[Airdude2 0]

i'm sure i saw an osprey on one of the vbs1 sites before they all started to die.and so far vbs1 hasn't made something that dosen't look unbelievable yet.

hmm, also they have a harrier, mortars and many more.

they must have redone the physics to make the harrier and osprey realistic soooooooooooo i was wondering if any of you work for the us marine it dept, you might be able to smuggle out a copy???

[arkadeyevich 0]

Why the V-22 is a bad idea:

-You can't put a gun on it, it needs escort from gunships (therefore the extra range and speed is useless)

-Stalls if it is decending too fast

-Evasive manuevers has been redefined to "manuevers within the safe envelope of the aircraft" to hide the fact that it could stall if it is turned on more that 1 axis at a time.

-No autorotation

-Huge downwash

-Fucking expensive

The tiltrotor consept was tried by the Soviets, but abandoned because it was unsafe.

Why aren't there any civilian tiltrotor aircraft?

[HellToupee 0]

there have been civilan tilt roater aircraft but its not really a profitable business so the old civi tilts are rusting away sum where there alot different to he osprey.

[OFPman 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Benze @ May 03 2002,22:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">When the USMC wants something, they get it.<span id='postcolor'>

yes, thats true but it seems that it wont be the best thing to make: 1) it will be loud and wont have little/no protection 2) it will be an even easier target because of the size (so is a C-130 HURCULES) but it wouldnt beable to carry as much supplies 3) it looks like it will be a unstable target

good things: 1) looks easier and quicker to build then a C-130

2) could become hard targets in big big groups 3) could be a good recon/rescue 4) maybe beable to have about ooooooo! alot of rocket pods  or maybe have hellfire/tow missles/singers, maybe have a mounted m203 grenade launcher on the side tear the shreads out of what ever is down there...

overall: so it has great weaknesses and great chances of being the best kind of transport out there but i just wonder why the army wont use hueys anymore, they look extremely modifiable...

[Airdude2 0]

i think tilt rotar could work, it just needs to be redesigned, lets face it they are using an ancient design.

some english guy invented a form of rotar propultion that offers 3x more than a conventional rotor.

he put a tube through the rotors at the end he had a capsule that had a block of silver. then he sent a chemical up through the rotor to the tips where the silver was, the chemical is hghly reactive to silver and creates tremendus thrust.

like having jet engines at the tips of each rotor minus the weight.

futher tests are needed, but even thought it uses silver it is a shitload cheaper than a normal engine. and the expect to create civilian choppers for vastly reduced price.

i think its equivilant of a gyro is about 12 thousand